PE pastor blames gays for Cape Town fires
A pastor in Port Elizabeth believes that the fires that have devastated Cape Town this week are the fault of gay and lesbian Capetonians.
In a Facebook update posted on Wednesday, Pastor Vincent Wienand from Revelation Ministries proclaimed that Cape Town is “The gay city – the burning lake of fire!”
Along with a montage of images of the city’s slopes ablaze and gay and lesbian couples, he wrote that “The Mother City has oftime been referred to as the second San Francisco (San Fran commonly known as the Gay Capital of the World).”
Wienand pronounced that, “God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah for the very same reason.”
He further claimed that New Orleans “also fell on the day of a gay march when Hurricane Katrina swallowed that city!”
Wienand appears to have now taken down the post, which can no longer be found on his timeline. Mambaonline was able to take a screen grab of the update before it was removed.
Many of the good pastor’s posts on his Facebook page concern the apocalyptic end of times, which he appears to believe is near. He even warned that a solar eclipse last year was a bad omen that foretold our imminent demise.
Blaming gays and lesbians for incurring god’s wrath through natural disasters or tragedies is nothing new. In 2013, Western Cape Pastor Oscar Bougardt claimed that Oscar Pistorius killing his girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp was a curse for him “openly supporting homosexuals”.
The previous year, Pastor Errol Naidoo said that gays and lesbians had created a “culture of death” that led to the Marikana Massacre.
LGBT people have also been blamed for last year’s outbreak of the Ebola virus in Liberia, the Boston Marathon bombings and even the biblical floods.
According to News 24, around 5,500 hectares of land have been burned in the Cape Town fires, which broke out on Sunday. Thirteen properties and homes have been damaged and 500 people have been evacuated. It’s believed that a discarded lit cigarette led to the blaze.
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The fynbos fires are a natural phenomenon, just like homosexuality.
Hi-5 Jabu!
I am a (gay) Christian and ashamed of the people “we” look to for guidance. These ignorant (and crazy) individuals are making a mockery of my faith. Instead of brining people to God these crazy outspoken false profits make me and my faith seem nuts.
Bud, they’re NOT making a Mockery….. They’re making MONEY!!
God is the product of ignorant individuals. Religion is a lie, why would you be part of a religion which looks down at you way of life? only thing that matters in this world is how you treat your fellow human beings.
Jesus loves you Vincent Wienand, which is nice, because everyone else thinks you’re a cunt!
Couldn’t have put it better myself, Drew!
The following video will explain it without venom towards any ill informed Pastor that wants to make statements that really only makes THEM look shameful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTkrwBOPRA0
OMW who made them to judge. There is only one person who can judge one as a person and that is God alone for He alone sit so High. No one else is gona be standing with you when judgement comes upon your life book but only God and you will attend this meeting. Really and they call themselfs pastors they should be revoked from those Titles as they are not here to judge no person on earth.
God has already pronounce His judgement against all those that break His laws…so sorry to say but the pastor is just the instrument and messenger and everybody else with common sense that knows how to read what God says in His Word about all sinners(breakers of the Law according to the Old and New testament), can easily read with much clarity that anything else besides the nature of creation should be the rule…meaning procreation was designed in a specific order…female and male…Adam and Eve….not Adam and Steve…etc etc…be real people…we are living in the days that will be like the days of Noah….and homosexuals and lesbians must increase as a sign….let’s pray for those with an identity crisis and let’s be thankful we’re not there but pray that your righteousness will be greater than the Pharisees…and this is aimed for all including myself…I salute the people that speak up against God’s ways and try to speak some sense into a bunch of blind claiming to see yet walk in darkness…that God does not change His ways are always the same…He will never allow sin in his presence so figure that one out…and if you can believe what you are convinced about still after reading what the Bible says then for you there is no hope…
Hi Esteban, as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses, I think you hit the nail on the head. Yes, as imperfect humans we cannot presume to judge others, only the Almighty Creator can do that. However, these are the last days according to the scriptures, and the whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one, Satan. His system and his followers, including such a presumptuous said self anointed pastor, will be brought to nought. I believe that that then the righteous themselves will possess the Earth and reside in peace under kingdom rule forever and find exquisite delight in the abundance of peace.(Psalms 37). In order to get there, we should not try to please others or judge others, but rather, live by bible principles. As humans alienated from God, look what a mess results from being wise in our own eyes, instead of developing the fruitages of the spirit. Luckily for us, we don’t have to and should not judge anybody, just answer for ourselves. That is a relief. We all have different opinions and are entitled to them, however, the truth about God’s Word has to be singular or else it is an untruth. JW.org
Hahahahahah Matt. JW predictions of the end days, and there are many, have a 100% failure rate.
Pastor accept that you will never be Jesus Christ. 1. You have no kingdom an you are not holy you are just a sinner like me.
Lately a person can sue an entity or person for nothing cant we start Taking people like this to court and sue the last drop out of them, then just donate it to a charity
that is disgusting. God does not punish people he made in a specific way. That priest knows nothing ️an shouldn’t be a priest.
What a lot of horse shit – God loves all his children – leave the Gay people alone and put your own frikken life in order you hypocruyte
What a fuckwit
I’m gay and proud of it. God loves me to,i will pray for your sins pastor wienand that judges without thinking about the word of the true GOD.
These pastors are pushing people away from the church….these pastors will make any gay person rethink their belief in Christianity.
Kan maar net vir die pastoor liefde stuur… dalk moet jy terug gaan na jou bybel en dit weer lees en verstaan… los die oordeel vir die een wat dit toekom… al raak wat ek het is “tree uit, houop wat jy doen, jy is 100% teen die woorde wat jy preek mnr “wannabee” pastoor. Shame on you… sak my kop in skaamte vir jou…
This twit is close enough to Oudshoorn. He should take the short drive and join the ostriches. Oncve he has buried his head in the sand, the Bullsh!t will stop !!!!!
hey leave our ostriches out of this. what have we ever done to you.lol ostriches have worth. this poephol has sweet fuckall worth.
Many folks want to serve God, but only as advisers.
The world can handle stupid people, but ignorant fools like you Vincent Wienand, should be taken off this earth.
I am not gay . I saw his pathetic article on FB and sent him a private message condemning his news paper article and asking him , to remove the article and who is he to judge . I went into his FB profile and could only feel sorry for him , but more so for the 129 followers he has . All mislead by his so called “knowing” of when the return of Christ will be . Funny , my Bibles , and I have many versions , all say that not even Jesus knows the day , only God The Father knows of that day. One lady asked if he will be recording a seminar he had on dreams and visions , and his reply was , “give me the dollars”. Another lady said that she had a dream where Jesus appeared to her and told her to tell ALL , that His return was imminent , and that they should take food supplies and go to the tops of mountains because God’s wrath will not touch them there .
Let us not get upset by his arrogant comments . The Word tells us that in the end times there will be false prophets . Let us look unto Jesus , the author and finisher of our faith . Yes , we will be distracted by things going on in the world , but if we focus our all on that then we lose focus of Jesus .
Vincent Wiener blocked me so I cannot see his page or send comments to him . Lets pray that The Spirit of God has convicted him .
Once again , I condemned what he said in the strongest , and , I gave him Scripture on judging others, Matthew 7 v 1 , and also letting him not forget that those in authority will be harshly judged because they have a responsibility to their flock .
God bless you all .
From a straight man .
Well, it seems that these days the Lord doesn’t rain fire and brimstone, he just apparently ask someone to throw out a cigarette butt from a window… He is blaming the fire on homosexuality, won’t be surprised if the deluded ANC claims that it is the Lord’s punishment for voting DA, The problems with some of these “prophets”, “pastors” or whatever the fuck they are called is that it has become a business to be a hate preaching, short-sighted moron, preying on the apparent stupidity of a gullible populace, mostly with monetary gain as their main goal.Not using specific names because these pastors are wealthy enough for courts cases and I am not willing to get involved in one, neither od I know whether they may sue, a certain church is basically trying to convince people that if they can’t speak in tongues that they must cough up because they are doing something wrong, some preachers have a political agenda, the ANC claims it is ordained by God to rule South Africa, a thoroughly artificial entity like a corporation, the list of things these people do mostly for money or just simply to inspire other people to hate as much as they do under the guise of it being the word of God is shocking. When you stick your head in the sand all people see is an arse. It seems too many people have only arses showing… and that certainly isn’t helping the world,
But clearly the pastor is simply adhering to the teachings of the Bible, whose opinion of homosexuality is no secret? Obviously you cannot call yourself a Christian and just ignore any of the the obnoxious parts your purported holy book? You can’t have your cake and eat it.
The obvious solution is to recognise the bible as the bigoted writings of an obsolete culture that it is, and reject it forthright. The Bible has no place as a moral guide in this century. I am an atheist, and if I was gay, I would have been one much sooner.
Silas you are a shame to Christianity. have not read that adulterers fornicators will not inherit the Kingdom of God. Jesus says if you love me you will obey My commandments. you are not really saved but in wicked rebellion. loving and practising that which God hates.
Does any one read the Bible? One example: Just go and have a look at David + Johnathan relationship!!! They were in a same-sex relationship!!! Scripture speaks in glowing terms of Jonathan and David’s loving intimacy, exchanging clothing, embracing, weeping together, hugging and kissing each other. Jonathan goes against his father, his family, his opportunity to be Israel’s King, in favor of supporting David.
“…Jonathan became one in spirit with David and he loved him as himself.” (NIV)
“…the soul of Jonathan was knit with the soul of David, and Jonathan loved him as his own soul” (KJV)
“soul”, in the ancient Israelite times, represents a combination of body and spirit. Thus the two men appear to have loved each other both physically and emotionally.
Example:
2 Samuel 1:26
“I grieve for you, Jonathan my brother; you were very dear to me. Your love for me was wonderful, more wonderful than that of women.”
Within ancient Israel, it was not considered proper for a man and woman to have: platonic relationships. They rarely spoke to each other in public. So David’s only relationships with women would have been sexual in nature, then he must be referring to sexual love here. It would not make sense in this verse to compare platonic love for a man with sexual love for a woman; they are two completely different phenomena. It would appear that David is referring to his sexual love for Jonathan.
There are other example’s ruth and naomi + daniel and ashpenaz.
I no longer see Christ as a war monger that some individuals like this individual tries to portray Him. My religious faith/experience is between myself and Christ. Once I get married it will be between my husband, myself and Christ. I will only be judged by God and no one else!
Lastly, Life is shit hard; there are various knocks and turns but at the end of the day Christ wants us to be happy, enjoy life to the fullest. Go out and celebrate life by doing a deed to someone less fortunate in our Community.
And then you wonder why less and less people are attending church? ??!!!!!
This guy needs to get an education. Dumb as f&ck!
You sir, have a mental disability.
The pastor does not even have a “hell” to put those homosexuals in nor a heaven to put the believers in. People are misquoting scripture to meet their selfish ends. God created us all in his image and likeness. It is God seeking expressions through that Homosexual brother. God is Love and if we cannot find him in the next person we meet – Gay/straight or otherwise –then there is no point in continuing to seek him
The bible is clear: God is love / He is the breadth of life/ He is the Holy Spirit that dwells in each one of us. He created us all in his image and likeness. It is human nature to judge harshly on the sins we do not commit but lenient on the ones we do. We all have sinned and gone our way. Salvation is INSTANT BUT holiness is a lifetime process. Throughout history God used imperfect vessels for his Glory, Moses a murderer – God used him to redeem the children of Israel out of Egypt. Noah a drunkard – built an ark, David ordered that Uriah should be on the front of the battlefield so that he can be killed at war and he could take his Beautiful Wife Bathsheba and fathered King Solomon – the serial adulterer who had 700 wives and 300 concubines and built an altar for Molech (the homosexual God of the moabites) and ashtorech (the God of Orgies) — that means he slept with the handsome men that worked at his palace and also slept with his many wives in the form of orgies. Rahab was a prostitute, Samson Slept with a prostitute. Judah (Jesus being the lion of the tribe of Judah) slept with his daughter in law Tamar thinking she was a prostitute, Abraham (the father of Faith) fathered 6 sons with his concubine Keturah. Saint Paul was a serial killer but he wrote most of the new testament and the list goes on. So why are we so quick to hate homosexuals – we need to embrace them and stop casting stones!!
The word TURD has taken on a whole new meaning !
Good afternoon, It was never my intention to hurt or insult anyone that is gay, I do love you all and so does my Savior Jesus Christ My only desire is to warn people of the coming cataclysmic event that is coming, this event is coming this year. please listen to his heart cry,Traci can see into the spiritual world, she can see what world governments are doing , what the enemy is planning against us every day, please listen this video,https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10153172872918914&comment_id=10153173269493914&offset=0&total_comments=10¬if_t=video_comment
bless you
Pastor Vincent.
Blasphemy laws makes perverted homosexuality legal, while it became a crime to preach and teach the true Gospel of Jesus Christ and if to try and live in righteousness. Our country is cursed because they disobey God and they can expect natural disasters worse then Cape fires.