WHAT’S IN A NUMBER?
Europe has a reputation as a place of tattooed, pierced and sexually liberated people. It is spot on. In a dramatic and rather amusing reversal of cultural norms and practices, Europe is far more sexually open than South Africa.
Considering the utter disdain of early British and French colonialists for the nudity of Africa, I find it quite ironic that nowadays it is we who chastise any kind of sexual freedom while Europeans get naked at the drop of a hat, the mention of a beach, or a peck on the cheek.
There are probably very good reasons for it. Sex is dangerous business in South Africa thanks to the AIDS pandemic. It is risky and scary for a lot of people.
And we were culturally cut off from the rest of the world for a long time. With no TV to fill our minds with the sinful ways of the flower-power generation, there was nothing but oppressive marriage expectations of koeksister-wielding tannies and lobola-fretting tatas.
But not in Europe. Their open-minded secularism lines the streets, their sex shops do not hide in darkness. There, an entire generation has grown up active on gay dating sites, their cities are safe places in which to walk home in the middle of the night, and their men dress exceptionally well. It is almost impossible not to indulge yourself. At least that is what I tell myself, because I spent my early twenties in Europe – I went to university there – and I was, by South African standards, a bit of a ho-bag.
I was a ho-bag in spite of spending three of the five years in monogamous relationship and having a thing for coloured guys, who are not all that plentiful in Scotland. I racked up a number quite quickly and had never really worried about it until that fateful day when the next serious relationship started.
Out came the sexual history question and the demand to know my Magic Number. When I had to find a notepad and pen to try and work my way to a ballpark figure, I noticed in the expression of my partner that things were not going as he had hoped they would. His number was closer to seven. In fact, it was exactly seven. And that is something in itself: he knew the number. I found it quite odd to have been keeping tabs.
I realised that it is not just my mother who disapproves of lighthearted consensual sex between adults. There are plenty of potential partners out there who hold similarly conservative views. Are they doing the right thing by being concerned? Is it essential for safety? Would it be irresponsible not to be scandalised?
But the question, I find, is never about safe sex, it’s just about numbers. And what can that tell you, really? It brings with it all kinds of assumptions, most obvious among them being the assumption that the number of people you have slept with is some kind of shorthand for the kind of morality you have. A lowish number must mean he is the kind of person you can marry, and a high number must mean he is incapable of keeping it in his pants, dislikes being in committed relationships and will probably cheat on you.
“There is no rule to say that those who enjoy casual sex cannot buckle down to a lifetime of committed monogamy…”
These imagined correlations say much more about the kind of conservatism that is prevalent in South Africa than they do about the behaviour of the individuals concerned.
Firstly, someone who has only slept with two people could easily have had more actual sex than someone who has slept with seven people. The low number guy could be a hardcore S&M fetishist and the latter completely vanilla. The prior could even have a strictly casual attitude to sex and the latter could be a hopeless romantic who has just been unlucky with love. The number, in and of itself, tells you nothing about a person.
And even if higher numbers did equate to a more open attitude to casual sex – there is no rule to say that those who enjoy casual sex are reckless with their health, or that they cannot buckle down to a lifetime of committed monogamy if they met someone they loved who wanted that. In fact, there could even be less of an urge to cheat, because the sexual exploration and freedom has been done. The urge to spread seed is out of the system, the world of sex is known; it has been stripped of any mysterious allure.
We ask the question to gauge one another. We want to know if we match up to each other’s expectations. But the window of opportunity to be proud of your number, or to be happy with the answer you hear, is really quite small. Before two, most people feel a little embarrassed. They think they seem inexperienced and naïve; maybe a little hard to take seriously. It’s the kind of thing people mumble under their breath only after a lot of provocation and a fair amount of wine.
And after nine – in my observations, it seems the judgement starts as soon as you hit double digits – people avert their eyes. Some blush. Those girlfriends who know you well will gasp theatrically and then grab your arm forgivingly as if to say, I think you’re a filthy little whore but it might be a cultural thing and all of The Gays are filthy little whores so who am I to judge?
And awkwardness is not only restricted to the actual figures themselves, but to their relativity. In the great number comparison conversation with a new partner, both numbers can be perfectly respectable but all it takes is a massive discrepancy between them and you both feel silly. Each partner thinks the other is disappointed by the number, feels mildly ashamed, and assures the other that it doesn’t mean anything.
What a stupid system.
Why do we share them in the first place? When did it become okay for the Magic Number question to find its way into the standard set of getting-to-know-you questions?
I think it should be scrapped. The way I see it, asking someone how many people they have slept with is like asking them how many times they have taken a shit. It’s personal, meaningless and a little rude.
If what we really want to know is whether they always practice safe sex (a legitimate and important question) then we should ask that. If we want to know if they can commit, then ask them that. But asking someone how many people they have slept with has no purpose. It ensures assumptions get in the way of getting to know one another, and makes you both feel awkward. We only ask it because sex is stigmatised in our culture and we are nervous of being socially unacceptable.
If someone is with you, they have chosen you over all the others, regardless of the number. Only time with them will tell you about their attitude to love and sex. And only your chemistry will determine if you are the final number they reach.
Al Mackay- you must have slept with a number of people to feel so strongly about this. Although the number may not mean anything- when you find a partner with whom you wish to live your life with, it’s always good to know the little details. As you said it’s a personal question- perhaps something you would share with someone who you are intimate with.
For me the number is Important, it gives me an indication, as to how restrain and controlled one is, considering the sexual temptation, access and availability there is amongst gays, obviously a small number validates to me that, one is holding back sexual pleasure for something more, thus will also be willing to practice restrain once your relationship reaches its sexual peak,out of respect for you and your relationship. what we noticed is that sexually experienced individuals tend to get bored faster in a relationship compared to the inexperienced partner( teens and those new in this gay thing excused) The habitual behaviour of changing random partners becomes a behavioural pattern, which becomes a problem to the partner who is actually looking for a stable and a solid arrangement.
Did you even read the article? The whole point is not to make assumptions. You dont know why someone has a high or low number. By making assumptions about that person if the number is high, chances are you are making some wrong assumptions. You seem to be thinking form 1 perspective.
Are you serious? Please explain to me the reason for a high number other than the fact that someone is a whore?
It seems you are trying to delude yourself into believing you’re not a whore when in fact you are one. No amount of semantics is going to change the fact that sleeping around makes you a whore. And pity on you for trying to give other whores reason to do the same.
What a lot of bull dust Zonke, sex is sex, what does it matter how many times and whith whom I had it……..If you ask that question and you do no like the answer, you might just lose out on your potential life partner
Just one more thing, is it ok to go anto a site and have as much phone sex as you please, or would the partner be less pissed off if they actually go aout together and rack up the numbers??????????? It seems to me that in South Africa today, it is a rare site for two gay people to have a relationship without involving at least one other person
Sam – you’re a real prude living in a world that doesn’t exist! What a bunch of crap. Why not ask a Guy how much money he has…huh? Now let’s stay out of that territory which is way more an issue in the Gay world than sex!
Barend each to his own, I was merely expressing my personal opinion, sex might just be sex to you, but to me it isn’t, rather an act to consummate a relationship. And it is precisely for that reason you mention on your second post, I want a man of great restrain, that I do not fall into the trappings of introducing a third party to stimulate our relationship as we have seen with most relationship. Unfortunately I do not believe someone who has been plagued wherever,whenever by whomever will be able to hold steady when it gets boring at home between the sheets, cuz definitely it will get boring at some point.
Look guys, calling each other names is defeatest.Before I met my partner I slept around, but then again I was very unhappy with my sexuality and didnt care if I lived or died. I thank God that both myself and partner are HIV negative despite the risks we took before we met.
After meeting we spent the next 6 years practicing safe sex. Then we were tested and found to be negative. In our 15 years we have been monogomous, happy, have a great sex life. It is in your interests to make your sex life as interesting as possible.
The point I am making is not to judge guys out there who sleep around. We are all different and searching for somthing. Fortunately, I found it in the most wonderful husband. Our bond is too precious to take chances with adding a 3rd party element and anyway, we love each other! We married on valentines day this year (yes , you can take out the barf bags!)
Wayne
I’m looking for my long-term partner at The Hot House. Just think, we could spend our lives in jacuzzis having wild sex. A marriage made in heaven.
Hmmm… I have been with about 70 or 80 guys and I do feel a bit bad about it at age 35… but then again… I think most guys have similar numbers 🙂
How important you regard he number of sexual partners, your partner has had is going to be different for everyone. If you feel certain figures make one less attractive that’s perfectly fine. These judgements are going to restrict the people entering your life to the kind that think like you and have the same values, so if you find the love of your life in that demographic great. Don’t however project your values on those going about living their lives separate to yours. Short of causing harm to others, there really is no wrong way to do life.
Good article. How many guys are really going to be honest abotu the number anyway, even to people they love? Come on! BTW I agree with the statement that having many partners does not necessarily mean unsafe/risky sex. I’m in my quadriple digits (gasps from the father grundies and moralists), am a total slut, have been for the last thirty years, have practised ‘safe sex’, and I am still HIV negative.
I lost count of how many cocks I sucked after my first few months living here…but I can count the number of guys I have had penetrative anal sex with….though it hovers around 30, what I always remember is the feeling of loneliness I used to feel after sex with some guys who were happy to use me as a sex object. Yes the magic number might be important but how you feel going into the deed and how you feel after the deed must count for something regardless of the number…happier well rounded individuals are much more likely to be loving and stable partners than those who ‘settle’ or ‘compromise’ out of the various concerns that plague us in the gay community – concerns about ageing, weight gain, loneliness, etc