JUDGING THE HOMOPHOBIA IN SPUD
A South African Constitutional Court judge has taken the producer of the hit film Spud to task for a number of homophobic scenes.
Justice Edwin Cameron – the only openly gay judge on the African continent – expressed his concerns about the film’s “casual denigration of gays” in a letter to Ross Garland, the film’s producer. But is he being overly sensitive?
Spud The Movie is based on the best-selling novel by John van de Ruit and deals with a young boy’s experiences at an elite private school in South Africa in 1990.
It stars John Cleese as one of school’s teachers and has broken box office records in South Africa.
In his letter, Cameron specifically refers to a scene in which Cleese comments on novelists he believes were lesbians and says that he’d like to give them a thorough “rogering”.
It’s something that the Justice notes is particularly distasteful in light of the recent epidemic of corrective rapes of lesbians in South Africa.
Cameron also expresses his distress about a character being accused of “faggotism” and the depiction of an “ineffectually simpering rugby coach, clearly depicted as an effeminate gay man”.
Cameron, who is also HIV positive, was appointed to the Constitutional Court in January 2009.
He has co-authored a number of books, including Defiant Desire – Gay and Lesbian Lives in South Africa and Witness to AID, in which he described coming to terms with living with HIV.
Below is the letter by Cameron in full.
My dear Ross
Thank you again for the invitation to the Spud premiere in Gauteng last month – I am truly sorry that my Cape Rhodes duties prevented me from accepting.
My godson Andy and I saw Spud last evening and were thoroughly and happily swept along by the fine acting, the excellent cinematography and sensitive direction (though I do tend to agree with [film critic] Shaun De Waal that the Gecko character takes the schoolboy acting honours).
But despite my pleasure in the experience, last night I was kept awake by one aspect of it – which I guess faithfully derives from the book – and find after a long day of thought that I must share my distress with you.
It is the casual denigration of gays – the amiable gay-hating incidents – that occasionally spike up in the movie.
They start with the John Cleese character denouncing Virginia Woolf and another novelist as lesbians. He owns (of course) that he has nothing against lesbians – in fact, he says, he would like to give them all a thorough “rogering”.
At the Waterfront Nu Metro [cinema] last night, this evoked a big laugh.
Yet you must know, Ross, that it is exactly this impulse that is imperilling the safety and the lives lesbians in townships throughout the country, and appears to have resulted in several brutal murders. Middle class academics and discussants call it “corrective rape”. But to township lesbians it is a constant and benighted horror – the need butch men express to set their sexuality at rights – by giving them a thorough “rogering”.
I found it distressful that a South African-made movie, with a South African producer, could reflect this speech. Its effect cannot be other than to condone that sort of violence besetting lesbians in our country.
You must know, apart from the lesbian murders and rapes in South Africa, about the law now pending before the Ugandan Parliament that seeks to ban homosexuality with savage punishments, even to introduce the death penalty for certain kinds of homosexual acts?
You must know of Steven Monjeza and Tiwonge Chimbalanga, the Malawian men sent to jail for fourteen years last December (fourteen years) for declaring their intention to love and commit to each other (released after intervention of the UN secretary-general)?
You must know of the hatred, scorn, death threats and violence that beset gay and lesbian, bisexual and transgender lives throughout Africa?
Did you not think it wrong for Spud so casually to appear to connive with these impulses?
I think of the underpants-collector who is accused of “faggotism” – and of the cringing scene showing the ineffectually simpering rugby coach, clearly depicted as an effeminate gay man, exhorting his team to give “more pressure in the rear” (a “joke” that was already current, and made me cringe, when I was a teen struggling with my own sexuality at Pretoria Boys’ High in the late 1960s).
The usual response to complaints of the sort I am making to you, Ross, is that they are trying to enforce “political correctness” onto harmless fun.
There are several comments to make on this.
The first is that the film is highly “politically correct” on other important issues – for instance, the ANC and black/white relations. The racist father is clearly depicted as demented, and Spud’s “progressive” commitments lauded (although his condescension is deftly rebuked in a telling scene where he presumptuously puts his arm around the black head of house).
Even the Jewishness of kid pornographer is safely steered around. You did not think it necessary or acceptable to sneer at his Jewishness – even though I suspect some measure of anti-Semitism lurked in South Africa’s private boys’ church schools two decades ago, and may still do.
So you were very careful to position yourselves correctly on race and politics and Judaism – even though a faithful depiction of white schoolboy and parent attitudes in 1990 would have reflected much rancid racism.
The second is that racist jokes and anti-Semitic jokes and anti-women jokes were long also defended as harmless fun, but their deadly impact is now well recognised.
Yet it still seems to be acceptable for gays and lesbians to be derided and sneered at in a movie made in South Africa in 2010.
Why?
I find I cannot find an answer to that question.
You and I have had warm social engagements. I respect you and admire you and have small doubt you feel the same about me. You know I am a gay man. Does that aspect of me strike you as inconsequential, ignorable? Would the fact that Arthur Chaskalson and Albie Sachs and Richard Goldstone are Jewish not serve to inhibit any temptation to run with crude anti-Semitic jokes in a movie you produce? Why then is homophobia acceptable?
I am sure you have many gay and lesbian friends – as I am sure John De Ruit does. I am sure you must feel appalled, and perhaps even angry, at my suggestion that what many would think are innocent jokes in the movie are playing into a larger horror of hatred, oppression and violence on our continent.
Yet that is exactly what I think they do.
Thank you Ross for bearing with me while I disburden myself of my distress at this one aspect of an otherwise excellent production. Most of my life, though personally very “out”, and politically very emphatic on gay and lesbian equality, I have remained silent in the fact of such taunts and jokes and jibes. My seemingly butch exterior (so different from the simpering rugby master) colludes with such collusion.
I find I cannot be silent any longer.
I send you my warm and respectful greetings.
Edwin
Spud, judges and gays. One always treats Jude Cameron’s remarks with huge respect. But on the issue of “Spud”, I disagree with the notion that homosexuality should have been treated more ‘sensitively’. The simple truth – and this from one who attended a private school very similar to the one described in the book/movie and at about the same as the period in which it is set – is that homophobia is/was a real issue in these institutions, far more rampant than racism or any form of religious intolerance. Surely the book/movie must portray the ‘truth’ to the extent that this is possible? If ‘art’ must somehow gloss over these issues, are we not in serious danger of manipulating historical facts simply to suit our current purposes (think of so-called Nazi ‘art’ in the late 30’s)? However uncomfortable, appalling and tragic homophobia might be/have been in these institutions, I don’t believe that any good can come from the pretense that it doesn’t/ didn’t happen.
Yes no maybe. I agree with what you say, but I think the point that Cameron is trying to make is, that its not ok to make jokes of the one group of people and not to worry about how they might be shown, and be sensitive to another group, like the black or Jewish. The arts are there to explore and show what you feel, but then you have to show the books in their true form and not try to sugar coat the issues that where existent in the 1990 with black people.
I find the letter interesting, and would love to see a reply to his letter.
Agreed. Agreed with Gizmo – see my reply above.
Yes, but. Hi Gizmo! I hear you, and please don’t think for one minute that I am not ultra-sensitive to homophobic issues in our society. However, I have to say that when I was at (a very similar) school the simple truth was that the general attitude to racism and people of different religious beliefs WAS actually very tolerant, while the attitude towards being gay was very negative. All I’m saying is that I think the book/movie represents an actual portrayal of a real situation. I think that’s the way it whould be. Just the fact that Edwin’s letter has provoked this much interest suggests to me that “the truth” in art is more powerful (not least as a means of exposing appalling attitudes in our society) than any amount of political correctness …
spud. Good man :))
Wiseowl. Hi wiseowl.
You have a point, perhaps in our personal experience it was like that, and I can see your point.
Maybe gay content was in extremism in this satiation, and thats sad, I still feel the movie was more sensitive to other minority groups, and changes where made from the books to the movie. In the books it is said they way it is, still feels like special changes where made. And not for us.
But I respect your view.
Gizmo. Thanks Gizmo. Naturally I resepect your point of view too. And you may just be right – i.e. that the movie-makers were more senisitive to other issues and less sensistive to gay issues…. 🙂
Take care!
Question?. The judge says the movie was PC in other respects – the character of Fatty was changed to that of a black boy, which he is not in the movie – to be PC. Why then do homos not get the same respect?
I saw the movie ironically a few hours before the judge’s comments were published, and I must say I have to agree with him that we did not get the same treatment of ‘PCness’ which other issues got.
But it was not bad enough to let me not enjoy the movie. I think it was brilliant.
spud. sad!
One doesn’t want to gloss these issues over, they need airing. There are however, more constructive ways to put these issues into the public domain.
Spud’s only real failure. I find myself agreeing with both Justice Cameron and the comments of Gizmo and wiseowl; indeed there is a growing debate both here and in the USA about artistic freedom of expression versus political correctness.
As an adult gay man, I am smart enough to laugh when something is funny and complain when it is not. Almost all the film’s characters and dialogue were accurate and sensitively portrayed. The Guv’s comment shows him a thoroughly ‘old-school’ chap whose additional comments(melodorous meerkats anyone?), when taken in context, mark him as a mysoginist and a masochist, not too mention an alchoholic! If Justice Cameron hadn’t drawn my attention, I wouldn’t have remembered the scene much at all __ the same could not necessarily be said for more impresionable and violent minds perhaps?
The Guv isn’t an overly lovable character until Spud helps make him one. Spud’s innocence and decency are what make the film and perhaps, forgive the failings of others.
My only real gripe, and indeed the film’s one true failing, was the poorly cast and even poorer performance of the ‘camp’ coach. After all the rest of the film’s superb direction, how could anyone not have cringed at so purile a performance, let alone at so cliche a rendition __ perhaps a more competent performer could have, even for a bit part, delivered the deeply closeted angst of a teacher in that situation.
A recent Vince Vaughn flik was under fire by GLAAD for using ‘gay’ within the constructs of a joke. The ‘joke’ is not even funny. I’m no fan of his, and find his comedies tedious.
Yet I’ve happily sat through what many call “purile” Jackass movies and laughed my head off, even at the clearly homoerotic scenes. They’ve admitted to the ‘gayness’ of their stuff, but as performers don’t seek to alienate their gay audience members, political correctness be damned though. I respect their openness and comraderie. I can laugh at an idiot’s antics and not be offended by them.
Basically, a balance with common sense is all that’s often required in such situations. Spud failed with one miscast and shoddily acted character, but triumphed overall.
Sensitivities. Complainning about the depiction of homophobia is like complaining about the depiction of slavery in the movie Amistad.
The movie is in context with the book and the time it depicts.
spud. BRAVO, a brill reply :))
You miss the point. With respect, I think you entirely miss the point that Cameron makes.
Truthfully…. …yes! It does get tedious that we have to be politically correct! Yes! It is absolutely ludicrous that we need to sugar coat the truth to make it more palatable. However, we are talking about people’s lives. In SA, these are the township lesbians, and we still have no adequate documentation of abuses on gay men, transgendered, etc, since 1992.
Films are not only translations of literature. They do need to reflect, to a large extent, not the mores of the period they are set in, but rather, take a stand against prevalent social ills and injustices, even if by means of ommission.
When we look at what is happening in SA, Africa, and the rest of the world, primarily the UK, USA and Russia, the need to address LBGT rights becomes more urgent. Note the suicides in the USA, and the bullying. Note the violence in the UK, and the total disregard for the LBGT in Africa and Russia. Gay people have become the new second class citizens in this century!!
Interesting Letter… I have to admit when I first received the mail form Gayspeak about this letter I rolled my eyes and thought are we going to nitpik at everything that is said in every movie, every publication, every Facebook status we don’t agree on – that we feel is a slight towards us homosexuals?
But you know what I felt ashamed of myself at thinking that! People have died / gone through no ends of hell to enable us to have the freedoms we have today and lets face it, in SA we have a lot more leeway that any other African country!
So yes, when a movie like this comes out and derogatory remarks are made towards a certain group of people then it should be addressed, it should not be tolerated! If there were significant racist remarks towards Jews or blacks then those communities would too cause an uproar over it.
Personally as a lesbian I feel sickened at the comment that was made over giving a lesbian a good “rogering” ..because as a lesbian I certainly don’t want to be “rogered” by any man and if it was done to me it would be rape – so basically in the movie they are inadvertantly saying it’s ok to rape a lesbian.
Homosexuality is very prevelant in the news of late, with the Americans Don’t Ask Don’t Tell repeal, gay teen suicides ..
Did you guys know another lesbian about two weeks ago was gang raped, stabbed and set alight?
So with that said you would think they who created the script would be more sensitive to the homosexual minority.
I too would love to see the response to this letter!
natasha. Well done, you are right!!
Thank you
I’m a gay man , but i love lesbians….
El romano
Interesting letter…. I have to admit when I first received the mail form Gayspeak about this letter I rolled my eyes and thought are we going to nitpik at everything that is said in every movie, every publication, every Facebook status we don’t agree on – that we feel is a slight towards us homosexuals?
But you know what I felt ashamed of myself at thinking that! People have died / gone through no ends of hell to enable us to have the freedoms we have today and lets face it, in SA we have a lot more leeway that any other African country!
So yes, when a movie like this comes out and derogatory remarks are made towards a certain group of people then it should be addressed, it should not be tolerated! If there were significant racist remarks towards Jews or blacks then those communities would too cause an uproar over it.
Personally as a lesbian I feel sickened at the comment that was made over giving a lesbian a good “rogering” ..because as a lesbian I certainly don’t want to be “rogered” by any man and if it was done to me it would be rape – so basically in the movie they are inadvertantly saying it’s ok to rape a lesbian.
Homosexuality is very prevelant in the news of late, with the Americans Don’t Ask Don’t Tell repeal, gay teen suicides ..
Did you guys know another lesbian about two weeks ago was gang raped, stabbed and set alight?
So with that said you would think they who created the script would be more sensitive to the homosexual minority.
I too would love to see the response to this letter!
Who knows. Judge Cameron makes some valid points but I think in the context of the book set in 1990 there is nothing alarming for me personally. I don’t believe Van de Ruit to be homophobic and the reality is that if there is one thing that scares teenage boys is the fact that they might be gay (sad but true). Having read the book, there was no emphasis on “jewishness” and in fact, I read that they cast the black actor as Fatty because he had presence and not to be PC.
There is no way that the rape of any person, lesbian or not can be condoned and I don’t think the movie is urging people to go out and be racist, homophobic, rapists or any other socially maladjusted types. Rather it is a snapshot of a place and time in one person’s history. I think overall a damn fine film. And yes there are effiminate gay teachers out in the world. Get over it.
In support of Justice Cameron. I agree wholeheartedly with Justice Cameron. The creators of this movie were given the opportunity to amend any (if present) homophobic incidents from the original novel. They apparently did not seize this opportunity to be just and LGBT friendly. In ignoring this chance, they have perpetuated the myths of lesbians needing a “rogering” by a man, and of gay men being effeminate, amongst others. For South Africans to, in 2010, not be leaders in the fight against homophobia in Africa and worldwide, is disgraceful.
spud. Well done My LORD – TEN OUT OF TEN – at the same time i was wondering about our deceased estates act from 1994 – has it been changed – answer – no – can you please make a fuss about this act too- ? thanks- BEEN BATTLING FOR 14 YEARS WITH THIS ACT
SPUD. Any movie or advertisment should be banned or the text removed that discriminates against our constitution – peoples mind sense needs to be changed –
kudos. As a black gay woman, proud South African and emergent Jew, I thank you, Justice Cameron!
From our youth, and future generation, I applaud your voice on their behalf too.
Regards,
Gail Lee-Levitt
Spud. Thank you , my lord!!! thank you.
I’m Italian living in SA for donkies years, my English is not perfect as yours , but i could understand every word you said in your letter and i agree 100% with you.
Thank you for openning your mouth.
Viva cameron viva!!!!!
Interesting. Interesting that this issue is sensitive enough to draw out the more intellectual responses. I am NOT sensitive to gay jokes, and very open about my own sexuality. It is only recently that I realised how important it is to take a stand on the issue. Too many gays are still persecuted, assaulted and even killed for us to remain silent. Yes, there is increasing acceptance, but there are still too many of my own friends who remain closeted because they fear losing business, their personal lives being paraded before the press or their own family rejecting them. Many of these fears may be irrational, but it is a shame when someone spends half their life living a lie and hating themselves for something they cannot change. I recently lost a long term partner because he felt it “wrong” (inconsistent with his Christian beliefs) and could not continue to live this way. This broke my heart, but I’ll be OK. The question is, how long will this man continue to punish himself, and how much damage will this do? Even a simple disclaimer by one of the characters, a form defense of any of the characters portrayed as either overtly or otherwise gay or any other attempt at scorning a homophobic comment would have put the entire issue in a different light. So many of us have lived through the confusion, sought any sort of a “remedy” for our gayness and prayed through years of sorrow that God might just make us “normal”. No-one has such an answer, and the cruelest discrimination of all is to let anyone continue to live a lie, in the hope that he might find a cure, and waste the gift of life for an acceptance he will also not find. I praise the efforts of anyone who raises awareness and sets people free from what I had to live through until the age of 40, when I finally realised that I could just be me.
Beautifully said. Bless you for your courage to be true to yourself, and may the ignorant many that would ostracise us on the grounds of irrational fear find a place of love and acceptance, so that our world may become a place of Light.
Great Comment. You hit the nail right on the head!
Pro Active Stance. I will support Edwin fully and unquestioningly. He is one of the finest brains and most ethically sound human beings we as gay people are blessed to have among our ranks. Younger gays today have the advantage of a constitution that enshrines their right to equality and dignity. That came about only through the, literally, blood, sweat and tears of the pro-active souls who went before them. If scenes like this in movies are allowed to go unchallenged and in so doing, whittle away at the foundations of those hard won equal rights, then we are sadly on the threshold of a backward slide into the clutches of homophobia and its resultant awful backlashes. Be aware and pro-active as a community, always. The constitution (that Edwin so fearlessly and pivotally helped carve), is only a few short “corrections” away from plunging us back into the ravages of homophobic Africa. Bless you Edwin, and a MAJOR thumbs down to the homophobic writer of Spud.
in agreement. I am fully in agreement with Edwin Cameron.
It is this type of sneering stereotypes that continies to fester and create misery even today for many schoolchildren, both here and abroad. The rate of teenage suicide is far to high. Unfortunately, teachers react in the same way as the spud audience and laugh at such stupid comments as “rogering a lesbian” .
Either you show such ignorance in full with the concomitant racism and anti semitic language which was common in the 80’s and early 90’s , or you show that you understand the power of language to cause untold damage and show eaual respect to all groupings.
It shows how we still pay lip service to becoming a tolerant and understanding society.
spud. of course the judge was being stupidly over sensitive!!
That film depicted 17/18 years ago!!! homophobia was rampant!! Does the good judge want the film community to compromise on history?
The judge is DIMINISHED in my view!
STUPID letter.
ignorance. we know when the film depicts itself – immaterial no such discrimination should be allowed to be viewed in SA – it will still then promote hatred towards gay people – wake up and smell the hatred – lets stop it in SA
…. I think the point that is trying to be made is about how the other issues in the book have been sugar coated, like the other religion groups and the issues regarding apartheid, but its still ok to openly mock and belittle gay people. Changes have been made from the book to the movie and why should gay people just accept that we are still at the short end of this still. We have to voice our opinions on the matter, or it will never change.
PC or not PC. I disagree with the author of the article and agree with Judge Cameron’s argument. Either one chooses to be historically correct and include all the non-PC slurs of the time period of the work or otherwise if you are going to clean it up for a current palette then the way gay people are viewed/described is as important as any other changed perceptions.
Refuse to watch it??. So does one refuse to see the movie in protest?
Spud. He should have read the book first, now he is making an issue of something that is alive and well in our country. But this is going overboard…
um, you got it wrong….!. Although I entirely agree with the good Judge’s sentiments, I have just recently read the 1st Spud novel (have not seen the movie yet) and the “rogering” line was not written by the author as portrayed in the movie!
Yes indeed, the Guv did make a derogatory comment about Virginia Woolf being a lesbian writer but the “jolly good rogering” comment was directed at the sexy drama teacher – Eve – who all the school boys had a crush on and who was bonking the schoolboy character Rambo because according to the Guv: “wasn’t getting any from Sparerib – her hubby – who was a miserable sod born to be an undertaker!”
Now what do we say about the rights of young schoolboys taken advantage of by sexually aggressive woman who overpower them on the basis of being supposed authority figures? A win win situation I’d say, knowing the rampant sexuality inherent in teenage boys but not all! Somewhere, probably a myriad places, young men have been eternally damaged by older carnivorous women!
Now speaking of comments, misplaced lines and gay rights, I personally take offence to the line in the article above where it is mentioned that the Judge is HIV positive, what on earth’s relevance is it to the article?
I find it totally unnecessary to mention a person’s diseases in a completely irrelevant context, if he was pontificating on a health matter all very well but he wasn’t! If an article about Lady Wombat of South Yorkshire was written concerning her struggle with rose petal bugs, would it be mentioned that she had overcome gonorrhoea in her youth?
If it were, we’d despite our better judgement and higher sentiment just know she was a slut from hell with those American officers while her newly wed 19 year old hubby was suffering in a Nazi concentration camp!
In the same way the general (unknowing, unthinking, influenceable) public thinks the Judge must be a shallow selfish fornicater of no care….
No I’m sorry, respect all round please. HIV is an affliction labeled as the gay scourge yet promulgated mostly by hetrosexuals, and ultimately we got the blame – the label!
So look sharp, be very careful of what you say and mostly of your facts, yes we must make a fuss about things that offend us, as loudly as possible but be careful and caring when you do so…
p.s I am a gay woman, not revealing my HIV status of course as it’s irrelevant but I do have an ingrown toenail on my left foot which is entirely necessary to mention in my next blurb as it’s intrinsic to the topic of “rearing male toy Poms in a lesbian household”
p.p.s It is the producers fault that the “rogering” slander was allowed in the sreenplay, or was it the screenplay writer who took poetic license and muddled the imagery to make it more “effective”? Where was John van de Ruit in all this? After 3 books can he remember exactly what he said where and how much say did he have in it, what with all the dollars rolling in…..or did even he write the screenplay?