Is Cape Town Pride too white?
Cape Town Pride is once again facing charges that it remains too white, too middle class and out of touch with the interests and needs of the majority of the city’s LGBT population.
This year, the debate was sparked by an open letter from Nyx McLean to Pride organisers, first published by the Mail & Guardian. In it, McLean accused Pride of being “too white” and not being “fully aware of the lived realities of most LGBTIAQ (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, intersex, asexual and queer) people living, working and studying in South Africa.”
Pride Festival Director Matthew van As has now responded with his own letter.
The crux of his reply is that, while acknowledging that Cape Town Pride is indeed not as representative as it should be, this is largely due to only some of the city’s LGBT communities coming forward to volunteer their time and input to the festival.
“If people want an event, they need to champion it. Pride has always worked this way. Let the African queer woman, the transman, the nonbinary individual, or intersex persons come forward and plan the events they would like to participate in,” van As wrote.
Below, we publish both letters unedited and in their entirety. Let us know what you think about this issue in the comments section below.
Update: LGBTI activists have launched an “Alternative Inclusive Pride” amid continued accusations that Cape Town Pride is exclusionary and racist. Read more.
Dear Cape Town Pride,
You’re too white.
I feel like that should cover what I have to say, but I also understand that you may not know what I am talking about. When I say you are too white, Cape Town Pride, I mean I don’t see myself able to participate in your events as a person who is fully aware of the lived realities of most LGBTIAQ (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, intersex, asexual and queer) people living, working and studying in South Africa.
I have a series of questions I would like you to answer, or at the very least think about, because it’s 2015 and we cannot possibly still be talking about the same consumer-corporate-capital-fuelled Pride experience:
• We’re returning to the rainbow? Your slogan for this year’s Cape Town Pride Week (February 20 to 28) is “Return to the rainbow”. Whose rainbow is this? The nine events listed on your flyer do not appeal to me – except maybe the movie night, but that depends on the movie.
• Did you learn nothing from Jo’burg Pride 2012 and 2013? This is probably what upsets me most. Your older sibling went about hitting its head on these issues. People met after 2012 to consult and find a way forward that was balanced and brought back aspects of the political nature of Pride.
They did the work so that you don’t have to go through the same drama whenever Cape Town Pride erupts. Because it will erupt. There are frustrated LGBTIAQ persons who will soon have enough of being rendered invisible.
• Whiteness. Do you know what it is? You don’t? Really? Because you are doing it like a pro. Being “too white” is not limited to race – so your argument that everyone is welcome, regardless of race will not work here.
What I mean by “too white” is that you are working from a position of whiteness and that you are maintaining this position through the events you have put forward for Pride, by charging for events (whiteness and class are very good friends) and by the spaces you have selected as “Pride space”.
• Where is the broad variety of lived LGBTIAQ experience in your planned Pride events? Nothing in events such as the Pink Party, Ms Cape Town Pride, the Millionaire’s Gala Charity Dinner or Divas, Dames and Drags addresses the experience of the African queer woman, the transman, the nonbinary individual, or intersex persons who daily negotiate society, its obstacles, violence and ignorance.
• Are you consulting the community when it comes to the planning of events? If you are, who are you consulting? And are you consulting in a way that is open to multiple experiences? Honestly, I look at your events and I see business and corporate interests first. I do not see civil society, I do not see the trans, intersex, asexual or queer community represented in your planned events.
• Is there an organising committee? If yes, who sits on it and whose interests are being represented here? The events feel far too commercial for an event that should be transgressive and should advocate the rights of all LGBTIAQ persons.
• Accessibility? Who do these events target? The spaces in which the Pride events are due to be held are spaces for those with money, transport and social capital. Do you have to charge those fees for Pride? A degree of gatekeeping takes place when a price tag is attached to an event: it says that only those who can afford to be in these spaces are welcome. And what about accessibility of persons – have you catered for physical, sight and auditory disabilities?
Please think about all this. Not taking everyone into account makes this Pride noninclusive. You can’t claim to be returning to the rainbow if you’re only taking a few members of the LGBTIAQ community with you.
Please put out an open call for your first planning meeting for Cape Town Pride 2016.
With hope for change,
Nyx McLean
Dear Nyx
Thanks for taking the time to write us a letter, which we unfortunately only heard of via Sivu Siwisa on Twitter. I haven’t had the privilege of meeting you at any of the Cape Town Pride Festival meetings and hope to see you at our next meeting when we elect a new committee for the 2016 Cape Town Pride Festival. We will, as per last year, advertise this meeting on our social media platforms, as well as our website.
Not having attended any of our meetings yourself (we have no record of your name on our minutes), I assume that your opinion is based on conversations with friends. Nonetheless, it is still an important one, which we would like to shape, given the opportunity.
It saddens us that you have not notified us of your letter yourself. We also haven’t had any communication from the Mail & Guardian team to ask for our comments or for a reply to your letter. This highlights one of the problems we have been experiencing – that people are eager to make statements and to highlight issues, but they are not willing to engage with others about these.
We agree that our committee is too white. Of the seven members, four are white. This does not reflect the demographics of Cape Town. These people came forward during and dedicated themselves to various portfolios that they were comfortable with. Meetings were advertised on our social media platforms in August, October and December 2014 for people to get involved with existing and new events.
We invited everyone interested in participating in the 2015 festival to attend. These meetings were attended by six people, of which two were white. Everyone who attended had the opportunity to make themselves available as candidates for the election and they also had the opportunity to vote for those candidates they believe should be part of the committee.
During 2014 we also asked everyone who attended Cape Town Pride Festival meetings, and those who follow us on social media, to come forward with suggested events for the 2015 festival. We received two requests: one asking us to host a movie evening and one requesting that we bring back a book evening. These suggestions were discussed and a person championed each event.
Some of the people attending did mention that they couldn’t relate to all the events. This we understand and we know that it will be impossible for all people to relate to all events. These specific people also didn’t give any suggestions for alternative events when we asked them to.
I feel sorry, but also understand why you feel, that you can’t participate in this year’s events. I’m sure that there have been many others who have felt the same during any of the preceding years. I’ve found that people whose opinions are not voiced or heard feel excluded.
During my three years as festival director I have given everyone the opportunity to voice any concerns and to make suggestions. Unfortunately most people don’t and in this way exclude themselves from much-need discussion around what events are relevant and needed.
This leaves the responsibility of identifying events for the festival with a committee of seven members, each with their own unique lived experiences. The event suggestions that the committee members made have been presented to the members attending and accepted by them.
We would be honoured if you attend our next meeting to share your thoughts and concerns. It is after all only possible for other people to try and understand your opinion and point of view and your reality, if you express it to them, and give them the opportunity to ask questions for clarity. We look forward to hearing your suggestions on possible solutions to your perceived problems too.
I’ll gladly try and answer your questions.
I don’t know of anyone who owns a rainbow. Rainbows consist of seven colours that, when viewed together, makes most people stare in awe. It is something beautiful to witness. The idea behind our theme “Return to the Rainbow” is to motivate people of all walks of live (from all races, genders and ages) to work and live together, in unity, and to remind everyone that we all deserve equal rights.
I’m sorry but I don’t see people in Gauteng working together after 2012 and finding a way forward that is balanced. What actually happened in Gauteng was that Pride fractured. We certainly have learnt from this and that is why we’ve been inviting everyone to make suggestions.
It is clear that you would like to highlight aspects of a political nature and how it relates to LGBTIAQ life. You are welcome to bring attention to these. We’ve never prohibited anyone from voicing their opinions during the Cape Town Pride Parade, which is one of the events we host. You have to however remember that there will be some people who don’t relate to your opinions and point of view and that these people are allowed to express their opinions too. Some people might want to celebrate rather than protest.
If I understand you correctly you are implying that only white people are able to pay to attend events? Have you noticed the non-exclusive party happening on 27 February in the City Centre with a R30 cover charge?
If people want an event, they need to champion it. Pride has always worked this way. Let the African queer woman, the transman, the nonbinary individual, or intersex persons come forward and plan the events they would like to participate in. Unlike you we do not claim to understand the lived experiences of these various groups and therefore rely on their contribution and efforts in making these events happen.
We consult people who show interest in Cape Town Pride Festival. Therefore people who attend our meetings and who engage with us via social media, emails, telephone calls and visits. It is obviously impossible for each and every person to attend each meeting and we find that in this case some community members ask individuals to represent them during our meetings.
Cape Town Pride Festival, which is a week long, doesn’t just happen, unfortunately. It takes lots of time to plan and resources to execute. Unless there are individuals who are willing to pay for all the services required to host the event, I do not see us hosting the event without the financial support from sponsors.
You want the events to be free of charge, which means we will need even more sponsors to come on board, which in turn, according to you, would make it even more commercial. Do you have any other solution?
If you had taken the time to look at our website you might have noticed that we have a committee consisting of people in various portfolios. These people, and many others who are not necessarily part of the committee, champion events that their lived experiences allow them to create. They find sponsors, delegate tasks to volunteers and see that the events are executed. None of these people are paid for their time and work.
Cape Town Pride Festival is aimed at the LGBTIAQ community. Our events are hosted at venues that make themselves available and at venues that people from the community have approached that are willing to work with us to make the event happen. Community participation is key. Our events therefore happen because the people who suggest these events are willing to put in the hard work of organising it.
We’ve had people at our meetings who’ve suggested events, that they would like to happen elsewhere, but these people are not willing to make work of their suggestions. Somehow they just want them to happen.
Yes, as explained we need to, in most cases, charge for events. The purpose of having a cover charge is to raise funds that will be used towards projects that we run or participate in and in some cases to pay for the use of venues and equipment.
The accessibility of our venues for people with physical, sight and auditory disabilities mostly depends on the venues that are willing to host us. We certainly don’t have funds to change the set-up of each venue.
We welcome any suggestions on venues that can accommodate people with disabilities, we welcome suggestions of events that are more inclusive of such people and we welcome the participation of people who are determined to make these events happen.
We look forward to meeting you at our planning meeting for Cape Town Pride Festival 2016 and will, like previous years, advertise the details about the event on our website.
With hope for participation, engagement and hands that are willing to work,
Matthew van As
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Eloquently stated. Everyone wants it to occur, but so few are prepared to do anything to help or even make suggestions.
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So do they also want to wreck CT Pride like 1 in 9 wrecked Jhb Pride? And now there is no Joburg Pride anymore (well, which is worth it).
Excellent response Matthew
I am saddened that a group of “mad black queers” (their signature) are causing so much racial hatred in the gay community – the constant referral to colour is an abomination of what Gay Pride stands for – most of them were not around in the dark days of apartheid – but even in those dark times Gay men and women of all races walked hand in hand for Pride – through the horrors of the HIV crisis they stood hand in hand – groups of all colour worked together, our “gay’ friendly constitution is the envy of most other countries, people of all colours get the same illnesses,have drug problems, are abused or discriminated against – Gay pride is for all.. these people are a disgrace their racial hate speech is causing more damage disharmony to the community it is supposed to be part off. white people are also gay and every one of the “mad black queers” had every opportunity to be part of Cape Town Gay Pride Shame on you…
Why does everything always have to be about race. ? I mean come on get over it so much more than 20years ago and no one at that time even rise the fact that it was to white. Well white gay people don’t have to hide their gay life style . But sorry to say most black or colored gay are in the open with their gay life. So yes that’s why u always will find most white gay,s and their straight friends , family at a pride. What don’t u understand about pride. What a same that this is now a big issue. Will not stop us from our Gay Pride. Join or get loss if u not want to be part of Pride don’t try and stop others from doing so. Hope u have what it takes to be Pride. I am and yes I’m very white and openly happy gay. Have a gay day. Chris
This is just absurd. In South Africa everything is lately turned into a racial issue, it’s beyond pathetic. Pride is held in an area with lots of public transport, so everyone can go and enjoy, but it’s easier not to go and then to bitch about it.
I believe that there was ample opportunity for activists to put themselves forward as part of the organizing committee. It appears that the “mad black queers” have not done so, but they nevertheless expect those who did volunteer their time and skills , to cater for what they ( mad black queers) want. I find it arrogant that they are not willing to participate in the organization, but want still demand that the Pride must include what they want. Why don’t they get involved in organizing the event if they have something to add? Am I missing something? The solution seems pretty simple.
Hi we’re can I find a group for older gay men to meet, like prime timers
Ben
Hi Ben
Please let me know if anything developes from your question. I am keen to just socialize in a normal way (not precluding other aspects of life which flows from that).
One wonders when these parasites will ever get over themselves and start doing things for themselves.
I am disappointed in the reaction on that it is a racial thing. As far as I know that all races is welcome and over all the years I experienced all races at Prides. Aren’t we all suppose to be gay and stand for the same rights? Never have I found that any race was denied entry to any gay facility on color. SORRY TO SAY THIS BUT IF YOU HAVE MONEY TO BUY ALCOHOL THEN YOU SHOULD HAVE MONEY TO PAY ENTRY FEE> ENTRY FEE IS MINIMAL SO THAT ALL CAN AFFORD IT. We are a group called Cape Town Bears and we have all races in our group and we are proud of our members
Always the same complaint, “too white, too white”. How about stopping for a moment to think about why Pride is “too white” – I believe its because of the prejudice and discrimination faced by people of colour from their own colour/community. They know they will be attacked if they are found to be gay, by their own people – they are therefore too afraid to even be seen at a Pride event. Look at your community first before complaining…
Fuck race. Seriously. What the hell, that 21 years after becoming free we must all still be so obsessed with something that’s only skin-deep? We’re all just people, we all bleed red. The politics of groups and this Marxist identity dialectic nonsense has to stop. We are PEOPLE, people! Not white, black, red, blue, striped. Just people. Don’t let our Pride movement be derailed by people whose only real purpose is to tear down without building up.
Nyx Mclean is an obvious Social Justice Warrior. She’s white herself, and she has grown up privileged. She should CHECK HER PRIVILEGE before trying to tell us how to run our events!!!
Oh dear. I see the racism is like a fashion accessory. It stays in the closet (no pun intended) until the time is right to take it out and hit people over the head with it screaming “LOOK AT MY BAG!” The last chuckle i had when reading one of Mamba Online’s articles regarding a Bear Fest that was organised by the bear community. The one comment that stood out as much as the sole human being that was at the bear fest who happened to be black. I know of him personally and he never even thought about racial quotas because as a little boy, say 50 years ago, his parents escaped the apartheid regime to give him a better life for him. Now this is where the difference comes in. He does not see “race” He sees “people” . As i can attest, living in the UK is refreshing as race is simply not questioned on every single page of a newspaper or television. of course there are some racist little bastards in the UK but they are everywhere and they will no go away soon. That we all have to live with and hopefully we can guide them with a proper understanding of what it is to be human and have compassion. Now back to the comment regarding the above mentioned article. The human being (who happened to be black) complained of the lack of black faces even going as far to say “a black face in a sea of white” Now this made me angry. Because as far as I know everyone is free to join and sub cultural gay group in South Africa. He never bothered to phone or make a reservation. He could have told friends about it who also happened to be human but felt to comfortable in their own little club. As everyone knows the Bears are a friendly bunch. We don’t care about what body fat percentage affords you the right to be an asshole. We don’t care what your colour is. We don’t care what you wear. Some of us actually bring out our handbags! We enjoy each others company because we are inclusive and not exclusive. I do agree that pride is white and middle class but ALSO full of assholes who worry about body fat percentages, pretentious queens who spoil everyone’s fun and then the lonely human beings hiding behind badly made floats who feel victimized by too much of the same pigment of skin. The only way you can sort this balance out is to join festivities and stop seeing everything as black & white. We have a rainbow flag for gods sake!
All these bitter people do is complain, protest, disrupt and divide. When it comes to actually “picking up a shovel” and getting their hands dirty, they excuse themselves – because their only function is to protest. They are stuck in early 20th century marxism – clearly a failed system – and, paradoxically, seem to be fueled by the same sense of entitlement only seen among the “bourgeoisie” the claim to loathe: Pride must do all the work to organise an event that will please them, or they will throw another tantrum and roll all over the streets, pretending to be dead, in protest. What a bunch of losers!
Nailed it! 😀
This is really becomming a joke. As far as I know its free and every one is welcome to walk in the parade. And if you are sittting on the side and juging the people in the parade because they to white. You are truly more stuped than you think you are. Get off you ass and join then. Stop feeling sorry for your self , sitting on the side line. We are so over this rasheal card its not even funny.
Russell Chowles This was my response to a similar article in Pinknew online; Firstly the picture is NOT Cape Town so you get a fail right there! I worked as a volunteer for Cape Town Pride a number of times over a number of years too so let me set the record straight here. It has always sought to include ALL race groups and ALL LGBTI people over the years. When I worked on Pride there were loads of people from across all these groups at the beginning of each year when the planning started. Many people put up there hands to help at the start of each meeting but when push came to shove most of them disappeared leaving a handful of people to do all the work – which we did for free and because we believed in it. At NO time were ANY groups excluded or purposely left out. They just never came back to complete the things they had volunteered to do.Simple as that. And most of us that were left to put the whole thing together happened to be white.That happened every year for the 5 years I was involved. I do know that’s because we did have better access and time but there were loads of others from all race groups with the same access and time who also agreed to help but simply vanished when the real work began. Only very few of them actually kept that promise made at the start. Why???? And yes, it’s also true that most of the events are in the gay friendly areas of the City. It also happens to be where the most money gets raised too. At the time I worked on Pride FREE buses were offered to get people from places that had no proper access to the Parade Day as well as FREE access to the main party event after the parade was over. And still they did not come….. Everyone else paid as part of the fund raising. I am SO sick of these people crying foul year in and year out when they do FUCK all during the year to help. We are now 21 years into the not so new democracy in South Africa so to pull out the race card is just tired. Get over it and get to work ALL year instead of waiting for Pride to be upon us and running to the press to whinge and play victim every year!!! There is a lot that’s VERY wrong with Cape Town Pride but to call it racist is total bullshit. It’s one of the reasons I no longer volunteer – I got sick of taking the blame for all the lies!!!! Deal with THAT!!!!
Why does Matthew need people to suggest such things as lived LGBTQI experiences, has he been living in an ivory tower? by now PRIDE committee should know to be more inclusive and perhaps if information around meeting dates were more published and accessible then those with lived experiences can attend. #mortified
It would seem, from the Festival Director, that because he and his committee is not part of the concerned community – they cannot identify and therefore cannot plan for people living outside of the City Centre or Greenpoint. So you can’t even create a single fringe event? Its that difficult huh? One does not need to be non-black to cater for a broader community, even if you don’t identify.
The same reasoning persist, “we advertise the meetings”. Right. On your social media platforms. Who has access to these platforms? Secondly – when are these meeting scheduled? On what days? Is it accessible via public transport?
I’ve been there many years ago – I sat on the committee. We had fringe events. We catered for a broader community. The excuses I hear alarms me and is just a cleaver way to defend your actions.
Instead of donating money to other organizations, use it to advertise in community papers – they actually read the Plainsman, Tatler and Athlone News – amongst others.
Cape Town Pride is not inclusive, and your own comfort and lack of understanding the greater picture shows the privilege in which you operate.
When you carry the name of a whole community and collect funds in their name, it is your duty to take Pride to them or deem to include them as best you can. We have gay community organizations that should by default partake, not be sent an invitation or “check” social media platforms for when Pride is happening. It is these organizations that will guide you along in making pride more inclusive. And if your argument is they not interested – then I wonder why.
Millions of South Africans across all racial groups have access to social media – mostly via their cellphones. The numbers are easy to find if you Google them. People are unaware of the meetings because they don’t bother to check, not because they don’t have access to that information.
Secondly, there are many modes of public transport into the inner city at all times of day. Hundreds of thousands of people commute into the city centre each day. I understand that public transport isn’t necessarily safe at night, but if there are hordes of people from outside the city centre who would like to become involved with Pride, I’m sure the Pride organisers would entertain a different timeslot. Has anyone bothered to suggest this?
As an outsider, it seems that some groups of people want more events and are unhappy with the status quo, but they expect change to happen without becoming involved and enabling that change to occur. If you’re unhappy with something, by all means complain. If you aren’t willing to get your hands dirty and assist with making the event more inclusive, though, you have no right to complain (unless your circumstances prevent you from getting involved).
No one wins when some people have this sense of entitlement.
Entitlement is an ugly thing!
i was at Pride and it was mediocre at best that being said it was my first time. as to being too white lol it was a game of spot the whitey but everyone was awesome. the entrance fee was not exorbitant. i could make many suggestions as to what else could have been done but the only suggestion i would make is get a pro events planner, even if you have to hire one. when you have a big event it shouldn’t be run by amateurs. ( i sound condescending i am sorry for that.) nothing is for free so either go commercial or charge it makes no difference you will have people moaning about that.
I give huge respect for mclean. thanks for standing up and your voice to be heard. i was at pride and from what i saw was mostly white. no doubt. and a few of my friends (coloured) were chased out like dogs and they havnt done a thing wrong. We all had a good time enjoyed ourselves, no problem, but if the whole concept of pride revolves around money and colour then its better not to have pride parades anymore because end of the day the whole idea is all fake.
I don’t get it though… This shouldn’t be about race. White and black homosexuals don’t march for the same reasons. I dunno why my people would still want to be marching with white homosexuals… They don’t get killed. They don’t get assaulted by cops coz they get their gag reflexes choked by other men. They don’t fear walking at night coz its safer in the burbs. Personally I feel black gays in cape town should have their own pride. I’ve read really scary stories about black gays that side… Again why would you leave the township to go march in the city? Look… I’m black. I feel you my brothers. Yal just want the same facilities white folks have but all I’m saying is its fine you can go party with them. U can be at the same restuarants with them but I think blacks should have their own pride…I’m in johannesburg where whites and blacks aren’t as separated as they are in cape town but I know very well that I gotta be at a black pride in the township every year. That’s where I have to be fighting for my rights. I do go to white clubs. Pride with alotta white folks but to support them… That’s not my place… This has nothing to do with race tho… So u people who think pride is too white. Start yo own pride…
Well replied Matthew….I’ve couldn’t responded in a more professional and civilised manner. When will we ever stand together? Keep up the good work….we Boereseuns from the Free State stand behind you all the way…..cheers
Eskom Saa sabc mmmm cant imagine a bee gay pride working because it hase an us and them connotation in reverse… just a thought and no Im not white :’) but hey if brown ppl want to complain they must be worth their salt in equal proportion for that is equality.. contributions finances and time and proactive engagement of issues..because then white ppl who are equal have the right to state their contributions without guilt and recourse. Good on you! Everyone wants to change the world – start by being the changing your world (your neighbourhood your community your people ) it starts with you… it doesnt mean because 2 people are gay they have to like each other by default…
South Africans, we are SO dumb! Race is used to keep us mentally enslaved. And sadly it is working so well